This is a great way to get an overview of what was important in last night’s debate, because Colbert hits all the big points. And makes it funny.
This is all being overdramatized as more proof of “Democrats in disarray”, but I have to admit that running an old white guy against another old white guys might not be the strongest play on the Democrats’ part.
Only useful against Aqua man, though.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) June 28, 2019
I keep seeing people speculating about who Trump is going to face in the debates.
I’ll be surprised if Trump actually takes part in ANY debates. Why should he? He’ll concoct a fake outrage about bias or something and cancel them.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 28, 2019
re: #3 Charles Johnson
I had the same thought on my drive to work this morning. I do expect fireworks whenever he debates the eventual Democratic candidate though.
Four of us at work are gathered around a TV watching Team USA.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
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Criswell Bacon has been predicting that Trump will not debate his opponent but will continue with the Nuremberg rallies.
In other words, the 2019 Republican Party. https://t.co/OCzxmfVUSE
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 28, 2019
re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This is all being overdramatized as more proof of “Democrats in disarray”, but I have to admit that running an old white guy against another old white guys might not be the strongest play on the Democrats’ part.
Fix your own fucking party before you tell us what to do with ours, Charlie.
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 28, 2019
Charlie Sykes has been dry humping the “Dems must nominate moderate to right leaning while male candidate who is in accordance with my policy goals” bullshit for awhile. Of course, he frames anything other than that as “LEFT WING DEMS WILL GUARANTEE FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP UNLESS THEY LET US HAVE BIDEN OR HICKENLOOPER!!!”
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Even if he does agree to appear at the debates, he will perform his usual shtick of chair humping, stalking up and down the stage, breathing down his opponent’s neck, shouting insults and juvenile nicknames and vomiting garbled word salad if asked a policy question.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Trump will share a stage for a “debate” only if he sees the opportunity to, um, not debate in any meaningful sense (instead lying and doing stuff that superficially asserts power, because narcissist).
Whether it happens is not just a function of who his opponent is, but whether the people around him can wind him up such that he feels safe to misbehave.
re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹
Criswell Bacon has been predicting that Trump will not debate his opponent but will continue with the Nuremberg rallies.
Kamela would destroy him.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
I keep seeing people speculating about who Trump is going to face in the debates.
I’ll be surprised if Trump actually takes part in ANY debates. Why should he? He’ll concoct a fake outrage about bias or something and cancel them.
he’ll say his bone spurs are acting up
everyone will know he’s terrified
This so blatantly counter to our Army values that it makes me sick. Absolutely sick. https://t.co/9UnKzn97bV
— Angry Staff Officer (@pptsapper) June 28, 2019
re: #9 The Vicious Babushka
Even if he does agree to appear at the debates, he will perform his usual shtick of chair humping, stalking up and down the stage, breathing down his opponent’s neck, shouting insults and juvenile nicknames and vomiting garbled word salad if asked a policy question.
Of course he’ll appear, do all of that, plus his standard Gish Gallop. He can’t stand not to be the center of attention, even for a single day.
re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹
Criswell Bacon has been predicting that Trump will not debate his opponent but will continue with the Nuremberg rallies.
Donnie has too much a fragile ego NOT to debate. Besides, he loves getting in front of crowd even if it’s a debate where he’ll get his ass kicked. HRC beat him over and over in the debates, yet he still “won”.
re: #9 The Vicious Babushka
Even if he does agree to appear at the debates, he will perform his usual shtick of chair humping, stalking up and down the stage, breathing down his opponent’s neck, shouting insults and juvenile nicknames and vomiting garbled word salad if asked a policy question.
hopefully, whoever is the dem nom will have learned what to say and do
re: #11 Scottish Dragon
Kamela would destroy him.
If anyone can, it will be her. Poor old Joe would just bumble around the stage like a confused old man.
Just going to put it out there:
Trump will refuse to let the government conduct the census this next year without the citizenship question.
The census will not be done for the first time in our history, and Pelosi will not take action.
re: #8 Scottish Dragon
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Charlie Sykes has been dry humping the “Dems must nominate moderate to right leaning while male candidate who is in accordance with my policy goals” bullshit for awhile. Of course, he frames anything other than that as “LEFT WING DEMS WILL GUARANTEE FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP UNLESS THEY LET US HAVE BIDEN OR HICKENLOOPER!!!”
We should just ditch this whole primary thing and just have a small panel of Never Trump Republicans solomonically decide which Democrat would make them most comfortable.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 28, 2019
re: #18 Skip Intro
If anyone can, it will be her. Poor old Joe would just bumble around the stage like a confused old man.
And that is what really bothers me, because Joe was formidable in 2008 in debate.
re: #21 Scottish Dragon
And that is what really bothers me, because Joe was formidable in 2008 in debate.
With age comes cognitive decline.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
I was musing about that on the last thread.
Trump could refuse, but then he’d be called a coward by the Democratic party nominee.
It’d make him look weak, and that’d be a huge no no for Trump. After all, his entire brand is that he’s a tough guy.
Would that be enough to get Trump to agree to the debates?
re: #19 Scottish Dragon
Just going to put it out there:
Trump will refuse to let the government conduct the census this next year without the citizenship question.
The census will not be done for the first time in our history, and Pelosi will not take action.
Possibility #2: Trump will take no action at all, having just said that to get attention.
It’s something I’ve noticed he does, to tweet something dramatic and then not follow up with actually ordering it, like when he tweeted that he’d ‘ordered’ FEMA to stop giving aid to CA because we don’t rake our 33 million acres of forest.
But he had not given any such order, nor did he ever give any such order. But he made lots of news that day and his base loved it. Hell, they probably believe California has been cut off.
re: #21 Scottish Dragon
Joe is old. It happens.
re: #11 Scottish Dragon
Kamela would destroy him.
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
re: #21 Scottish Dragon
And that is what really bothers me, because Joe was formidable in 2008 in debate.
My favorite was 2012, when he made Paul Ryan look like the bad joke he is.
re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White
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— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 28, 2019
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
Like a prosecutor who puts people like him in jail for life.
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
Hopefully the way Hillary should have responded. “Do you need to use the bathroom Donald? Would you like us to take a break?”
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
Good question. HRC tried simply ignoring them. I suspect ridicule would work better, because look how he lost it when Clinton called him Putin’s puppet. And I can see Harris giving him a “Seriously?” look that would leave him not knowing what to do next.
I could probably take a break from Twitter.
re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White
Possibility #2: Trump will take no action at all, having just said that to get attention.
It’s something I’ve noticed he does, to tweet something dramatic and then not follow up with actually ordering it, like when he tweeted that he’d ‘ordered’ FEMA to stop giving aid to CA because we don’t rake our 33 million acres of forest.
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But he had not given any such order, nor did he ever give any such order. But he made lots of news that day and his base loved it. Hell, they probably believe California has been cut off.
Yeah, it’s a coin toss….but it’s also a Steven Miller thing and Miller faps himself to sleep every night thinking about this shit. If he can get immigration protections removed from active duty service members for fucks sake, he can persuade Trump to refuse to do the census until they figure a way to get around SCOTUS
re: #21 Scottish Dragon
re: #18 Skip Intro
If anyone can, it will be her. Poor old Joe would just bumble around the stage like a confused old man.
And that is what really bothers me, because Joe was formidable in 2008 in debate.
Given who he was debating - more like damning with faint praise….
re: #30 Skip Intro
Hopefully the way Hillary should have responded. “Do you need to use the bathroom Donald? Would you like us to take a break?”
she basically tried to ignore him and look like an adult
she didnt have a chance. my feeling is if she had done anything more directly, she’d have been called out for doing that. and likely it wouldnt have mattered anyway
and while i’d like to think whoever ends up going against him figures out what to say and do, this guy is some kind of bizarro bulletproof
re: #35 DangerMan
she basically tried to ignore him and look like an adult
she didnt have a chance. my feeling is if she had done anything more directly, she’d have been called out for doing that. and likely it wouldnt have mattered anyway
and while i’d like to think whoever ends up going against him figures out what to say and do, this guy is some kind of bizarro bulletproof
It’s important to remember that, for exactly the same reasons we all found his behavior infantile and stupid, his base thought it perfection on a stick.
re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s important to remember that, for exactly the same reasons we all found his behavior infantile and stupid, his base thought it perfection on a stick.
WE ARE NOT REPUBLICANS AND WE CHOSE CANDIDATES ACCORDING TO *OUR* VALUES, NOT YOURS.
Hope this clears things up for you.— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 28, 2019
We are not going to be “GOP-lite” to assuage your moral discomfort with your conservative co travelers. Take a goddamned stand on your own and stop telling us what to fucking do and believe. #havinngafuckingbackboneishard
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 28, 2019
re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White
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I really have been disappointed at the number of Republican analysts that the networks (including NPR) have brought on to opine about the debates. Stay in your fucking lane.
re: #13 Scottish Dragon
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pptsapper is clearly reaching his breaking point. He’ll probably end up resigning his commission in the next year.
re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This is all being overdramatized as more proof of “Democrats in disarray”, but I have to admit that running an old white guy against another old white guys might not be the strongest play on the Democrats’ part.
If they hadn’t had Biden and Sanders in the same stage there would have been Democrats claiming that the DNC was too chicken to put them together. Both of them got beaten by Harris.
re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg
With age comes cognitive decline.
That and he and Sanders are fighting the previous war.
re: #40 Mike Lamb
I really have been disappointed at the number of Republican analysts that the networks (including NPR) have brought on to opine about the debates. Stay in your fucking lane.
We are going to do this again in 33 days, ELEVEN more times before the convention. The GOP can bank every nickel to bury the remains.
USA womens soccer team beats France 2-1 to advance to Semi-final.
Great job, ladies!
re: #37 DangerMan
Upding for Jeff Dunham reference.
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
She did a pretty good job with people yelling at each other last night.
re: #43 Belafon
That and he and Sanders are fighting the previous war.
Stubbornness tends to come with age too.
re: #38 Scottish Dragon
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“You need to do what we did to beat you all those times!”
Okay, so appeal to racists with dogwhistles about welfare and food stamps; tell POCs and LGBT folks that they have to be quiet so as not to upset The White People; spew bullshit about tax cuts creating jobs and increasing tax revenues; use barely veiled references to murderous, rapey black men and Mexican* cartels and street gangs to frighten voters.
Nah. Not going that way.
* “Mexican” = anyone brown who’s not obviously Asian/Pacific Islander. Includes everyone south of, roughly, Oklahoma.
re: #41 goddamnedfrank
pptsapper is clearly reaching his breaking point. He’ll probably end up resigning his commission in the next year.
I hope not.
re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg
USA womens soccer team beats France 2-1 to advance to Semi-final.
Great job, ladies!
That was a fantastic match. The one thing I appreciate a bit more about the women’s game is that you don’t get the cagey matches you see with the men as the tournaments advance. Wide open, end-to-end play the entire time.
re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg
USA womens soccer team beats France 2-1 to advance to Semi-final.
Great job, ladies!
All those fuckers who were complaining about Rapinoe?
She got both goals for the US. If the US wins the tourney, it’s entirely because Rapinoe got them there. If she doesn’t want to go to the WH because of the fucker Trump, that’s entirely within her right and privilege.
re: #40 Mike Lamb
I really have been disappointed at the number of Republican analysts that the networks (including NPR) have brought on to opine about the debates. Stay in your fucking lane.
It’s disappointing and exhausting, but it’s also been essentially the way the playing field has been for the last 20 years. Republicans are the only ones deemed legitimate enough to truly opine on politics, regardless of how badly they’ve fucked up individually and as a party whole. Dems aren’t allowed to truly say anything unless it’s to bash other Dems.
re: #40 Mike Lamb
I really have been disappointed at the number of Republican analysts that the networks (including NPR) have brought on to opine about the debates. Stay in your fucking lane.
I look at it this way - I’m happy to have them on the anti-Trump side. But, you know, a lot of them are very much responsible for Trump being President. And although Rick Wilson at least owned up to part of that, his prescriptions are still for Democrats to run essentially Jeb Bush and Nikki Haley.
The thing is, we lost in 2016 for a number of reasons, but we’d have won if black turn out had been higher and if “progressives” hadn’t voted for Jill Fucking Stein. So, if we have to decide between appealing to blacks and progressives - who ARE part of the Democratic Party - and Center-Right ex-Republicans who aren’t, I think we should go with our own. We won’t make up as much in the center as we could lose on the left.
re: #51 Mike Lamb
That was a fantastic match. The one thing I appreciate a bit more about the women’s game is that you don’t get the cagey matches you see with the men as the tournaments advance. Wide open, end-to-end play the entire time.
The thing I really appreciate about the women’s game is the comparative lack of drama, dives, and histrionic bullshit. They just play their hearts out and if they look hurt you can be goddamned sure that they are hurt.
re: #26 The Vicious Babushka
How is she going to react to his chair-humping, neck breathing and other juvenile antics?
I’d love it if she’d respond with a question like “are you stalking me like the other women you’ve assaulted ?”
Or kick him in the balls. Would definitely assure my vote.
re: #35 DangerMan
He always has been. If I was a religious person I’d say he made a deal with the devil.
Remember at one point in the debates in 2016 where Trump was basically lording over Clinton? Like right up behind her leering down almost?
I’d love to see Harris’ reaction if the orange shitweasel did that to her.
re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember at one point in the debates in 2016 where Trump was basically lording over Clinton? Like right up behind her leering down almost?
I’d love to see Harris’ reaction if the orange shitweasel did that to her.
It was really up to the moderators to call him on that. Of course, they didn’t. Now that he’s president, I think he’ll do even worse and again the moderators won’t say a word.
re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember at one point in the debates in 2016 where Trump was basically lording over Clinton? Like right up behind her leering down almost?
I’d love to see Harris’ reaction if the orange shitweasel did that to her.
Suggesting that Harris or any other possible candidate is just going to walk over Trump is another way of saying HRC was not a competent, prepared, experienced standardbearer. We still haven’t learned to regard the Trump threat.
re: #60 Skip Intro
It was really up to the moderators to call him on that. Of course, they didn’t. Now that he’s president, I think he’ll do even worse and again the moderators won’t say a word.
It’s not up to the moderators (it should be, but they won’t do shit). At this point my vote will go to the candidate that will put him in his place with her words/actions/ideas.
re: #38 Scottish Dragon
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As much as you seem to love using the F-word to smear voters who may be persuaded to vote Dem (and get rid of Trump)
her problem is she thinks she ought/needs/deserves to be ‘persuaded’ to vote D ‘to get rid of trump’
its really kinda basic though
- trump is running unopposed (so far) for the R nomination
- in the general, if the D’s get more electoral votes, that is the only thing that gets rid of trump
.:. Vote D
- fuck your fucking persuasion and fuck your fucking feelings
- to fucking get fucking rid of fucking trump, fucking vote fucking D
- otherwise you are a pig who supports a pig
there is no third way
re: #64 DangerMan
her problem is she thinks she ought/needs/deserves to be ‘persuaded’ to vote D ‘to get rid of trump’
its really kinda basic though
- trump is running unopposed (so far) for the R nomination
- in the general, if the D’s get more electoral votes, that is the only thing that gets rid of trump
.:. Vote D- fuck your fucking persuasion and fuck your fucking feelings
- to fucking get fucking rid of fucking trump, fucking vote fucking D
- otherwise you are a pig who supports a pigthere is no third way
“My vote needs to be EARNED!”
Okay, so we won’t nominate Trump. There - your vote earned.
re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White
“My vote needs to be EARNED!”
Okay, so we won’t nominate Trump. There - your vote earned.
I blocked her.
Before I did:
We need a better quality troll, methinks. Before I mute this conversation, I’ll just reiterate: It is your responsibility to weigh the moral choice, and you have no business demanding that we change our own sincere and deeply held convictions in order to make your choice easier
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 28, 2019
re: #62 I Would Prefer Not To
It’s not up to the moderators (it should be, but they won’t do shit). At this point my vote will go to the candidate that will put him in his place with her words/actions/ideas.
I also want a candidate that can do a very convincing fake cough (and I’m not kidding. fuck trump).
re: #64 DangerMan
her problem is she thinks she ought/needs/deserves to be ‘persuaded’ to vote D ‘to get rid of trump’
its really kinda basic though
- trump is running unopposed (so far) for the R nomination
- in the general, if the D’s get more electoral votes, that is the only thing that gets rid of trump
.:. Vote D- fuck your fucking persuasion and fuck your fucking feelings
- to fucking get fucking rid of fucking trump, fucking vote fucking D
- otherwise you are a pig who supports a pigthere is no third way
Also, I get the odd person time to time who claims I would never talk IRL the way I write on twitter.
Whooo boy. If anything, my language IRL is far, far worse. I don’t cuss in the classroom, but everywhere else, I talk just as I did o n the flghtline at Camp Mobile.
re: #38 Scottish Dragon
It’s not even moral discomfort.
It’s aesthetic: they don’t want to look bad.
Hence why they never care about analysis of the outcomes of their policy positions—racist, discriminatory, strangling personal freedom, undemocratic—as “serious conservatives focused on fiscal policy” that has never created the results they claim it will. Hence why they have to flavor it with racist, sexist, LGBT-phobic pig feed to make it palatable to anyone.
They want to be the good guys but not actually be good, or answer to others’ criticisms of their “goodness,” or test the validity of their means by examining the ends achieved.
The recurring theme of the US “right” is that they operate from a selfish conclusion and proceed backwards to find arguments to justify that conclusion and simply refuse to acknowledge this thought process…as such, always operating in collective bad faith even if any individual is attempting to apply part of the thought process in good faith. Hence the endless, rolling revisionism of texts and events…ideas, stories, people exist only in so far as they have utility in the moment. As a consequence, you cannot trust any stated ideology once an individual has demonstrated the trend of bullshitting.
The value of what they say they intend (with lower taxes, with empty “free speech” arguments) has been rendered meaningless by the speed and casualness with which they discard what they “believed” (see: everything related to the Iraq War, or supply side economics) while denying that they were wrong:
The real measure of these folks is the outcomes they’ve been willing to tolerate while collaborating with people they find…distasteful but useful.
Viewed from that perspective, their only concern is their own convenience, and the rights of others and the lives of others simply do not matter.
re: #55 goddamnedfrank
The thing I really appreciate about the women’s game is the comparative lack of drama, dives, and histrionic bullshit. They just play their hearts out and if they look hurt you can be goddamned sure that they are hurt.
I dunno. From a sporting culture perspective, the countries whose men’s teams are known to embellish have women’s teams that have similar tendencies—Brazil, Italy, Spain as examples.
re: #62 I Would Prefer Not To
It’s not up to the moderators (it should be, but they won’t do shit). At this point my vote will go to the candidate that will put him in his place with her words/actions/ideas.
Right. Moderators or not, if I’m debating you and you get all up in my personal space you when you don’t need to be, you’re going to get some lip.
re: #69 The Ghost of Quesos Past
(pssst. All of this is aesthetics.)
re: #66 Scottish Dragon
I blocked her.
Before I did:
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well done
i’da thrown a bunch of ‘fucks’ in
that’s why i have no followers
meanwhile, we’ve been watching “the good place”
they cant swear there
so there’s lots of “forking” and “what the fork” etc
though while they cant say those words, everyone knows what word they meant
Carlin touched on this a lot in the 70’s when he talked about the 7 words
as if saying it is worse than just thinking it
as if the word carries the power and not the idea
Ran across “Sudden Impact” on tv last night and WOW that did not age well. I mean as a defense attorney I’m never a fan of Dirty Harry but holy shit.
— CockedAndLoadedHat (@Popehat) June 28, 2019
I was thinking about this kind of thing in the context of the kerfuffle over the 1994 Crime Bill.
What people in 2019 forget is that 1994 was 30 years into an unexplained, but dramatic and steady rise in all crime, particularly violent crime. We didn’t realize then that it was actually the apex of that trend, which then reversed itself for most of the last 25 years.
We had no reason at that time to think that was going to happen. We DID have reason to think it would simply keep getting worse. Look at the movies that were popular then - a LOT of vigilantism aimed at street crime - Death Wish, the Dirty Harry movies, RoboCop, etc. Similarly a lot of SciFi books of the time extrapolated these trends into whole areas of major cities essentially being ‘free-fire zones’, with the rich travelling in heavily armored, heavily armed transport and everyone else simply being at the mercy of it all.
So, that explains the 1994 Crime Bill. Biden would be well-advised to bring that up when challenged on it, and then say, “But we went too far, and we need to address the unintended consequence of the Incarceration State.”
The other thing? Trump’s supporters are still living that era in their minds. To them, the last 25 years of decreasing violent crime never happened. To them, crime kept increasing, in part because of all those people who look like the criminals in the 1970s and 1980s crime films have become more prevalent.
People say we should have sympathy for them, but I say we have to crush them at the ballot box, and maybe eventually they’ll figure it out, but we don’t have to hold up America for them to catch up, because maybe they never will.
re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg
Right. Moderators or not, if I’m debating you and you get all up in my personal space you when you don’t need to be, you’re going to get some lip.
‘back up. you’re not going to assault me on national television”
re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White
Similarly a lot of SciFi books of the time extrapolated these trends into whole areas of major cities essentially being ‘free-fire zones’, with the rich travelling in heavily armored, heavily armed transport and everyone else simply being at the mercy of it all
All of Heinlein’s material after 1965 or so. I Will Fear No Evil etc.
re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White
Unleaded Gas and loosened up abortion leading to fewer unwanted children had an amazing impact on lowering crime rates.
Greater Roadrunner coming by for a cool drink. #Bushnell #Video #SATX #CameraTrap pic.twitter.com/XOPseZEgQR
— TexasBirder (@RubeSA47) June 28, 2019
meep meep
re: #76 Scottish Dragon
Not so sure he was wrong about the balkanized US in Friday though (LOTS of other problems with that book but it was almost good compared. Job was good though).
re: #76 Scottish Dragon
All of Heinlein’s material after 1965 or so. I Will Fear No Evil etc.
That’s exactly the book I was thinking of, but it’s true of a lot of others. Fear of crime, because of the unexpected rise, was rampant at the time. And by 1970 when he published that, he was already an Old White Guy.
There’s also the fact that most of SciFi then was written by White Guys, which also skewed things a bit. (probably also true now).
re: #78 teleskiguy
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I so want to go in there and drop an Acme Bird Seed container where the one water dish is.
re: #81 Mattand
I so want to go in there and drop an Acme Bird Seed container where the one water dish is.
Or paint a tunnel on a nearby rock face…..
re: #77 William Lewis
Unleaded Gas and loosened up abortion leading to fewer unwanted children had an amazing impact on lowering crime rates.
Yeah, although the Scientist in me keeps whispering “Correlation is not causation”, and “N = 1 is too small a statistical universe”.
re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White
BTW, I realized after I typed it that calling 1970 Robt. Heinlein ‘already an Old White Guy’ is somewhat problematic for me, since I’m only 1 1/2 years younger than he was then….
And white.
And, you know, a guy.
re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s exactly the book I was thinking of, but it’s true of a lot of others. Fear of crime, because of the unexpected rise, was rampant at the time. And by 1970 when he published that, he was already an Old White Guy.
There’s also the fact that most of SciFi then was written by White Guys, which also skewed things a bit. (probably also true now).
Because we spent 2-3 year blocks overseas, away from US television, we were sensitized to the changes when we returned. I love Lennie and Lawn Order, but the massive exposure to atrocity—spinoff after spinoff, syndicated 36/7, scared the shit out of Americans who never saw a Bronx tenement. That is still going on.
re: #85 Decatur Deb
Because we spent 2-3 year blocks overseas, away from US television, we were sensitized to the changes when we returned. I love Lennie and Lawn Order, but the massive exposure to atrocity—spinoff after spinoff, syndicated 36/7, scared the shit out of Americans who never saw a Bronx tenement. That is still going on.
Hell, just watch “Murder She Wrote” - there’s at least one death a week in a small town!
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So, I had a few moments, a handful of nails, a hammer and an empty wall…
Nothing exciting but it’s nice to get them up on the wall. Have a guitar stand for the other two but that’s because they’re the ones I am currently exercising with (my new one plus a short kindjal style for sword and buckler work. ).
re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White
Hell, just watch “Murder She Wrote” - there’s at least one death a week in a small town!
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Safe as babies compared to Chief Inspector Morse’s Oxford. I used Law and Order as the realistic, high-quality canon, but the cable-wide effect of all living-room slaughter is cumulative, of course.
re: #87 William Lewis
Beats keeping them in an umbrella stand…
re: #85 Decatur Deb
Because we spent 2-3 year blocks overseas, away from US television, we were sensitized to the changes when we returned. I love Lennie and Lawn Order, but the massive exposure to atrocity—spinoff after spinoff, syndicated 36/7, scared the shit out of Americans who never saw a Bronx tenement. That is still going on.
By the time I was 10, I had only spent a little over 11 months in the US, between my father’s assignments in the UK and Japan respectively. We didn’t have a TV in Japan in those days because Armed Forces TV did not exist yet and Japanese TV, which was already fairly advanced, was naturally all in Japanese. There was an exception: One of the networks ran Highway Patrol with Broderick Crawford in English twice a week. On those nights, we would all traipse over to a neighbor’s house to watch the only English language TV we could see. From that, I got the idea that the States were a mostly desolate place where people spent most of their time fighting, roaring up and down the highway in monstrous tail-finned cars, and shooting at each other. I was apprehensive when we headed out to our next assignment, in Colorado Springs, but I was wonderfully surprised. This was before the fundy invasion, of course, when it was a beautiful, progressive, and fairly peaceful place. It is still beautiful but it is now run and inhabited by swarms of crazy people.
re: #90 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
By the time I was 10, I had only spent a little over 11 months in the US, between my father’s assignments in the UK and Japan respectively. We didn’t have a TV in Japan in those days because Armed Forces TV did not exist yet and Japanese TV, which was already fairly advanced, was naturally all in Japanese. There was an exception: One of the networks ran Highway Patrol with Broderick Crawford in English twice a week. On those nights, we would all traipse over to a neighbor’s house to watch the only English language TV we could see. From that, I got the idea that the States were a mostly desolate place where people spent most of their time fighting, roaring up and down the highway in monstrous tail-finned cars, and shooting at each other. I was apprehensive when we headed out to our next assignment, in Colorado Springs, but I was wonderfully surprised. This was before the fundy invasion, of course, when it was a beautiful, progressive, and fairly peaceful place. It is still beautiful but it is now run and inhabited by swarms of crazy people.
Heh. Our first tour was Seoul in ‘80. AFKN was sort of in business, with the famously high body count of b&w Gunsmoke.
re: #91 Decatur Deb
Heh. Our first tour was Seoul in ‘80. AFKN was sort of in business, with the famously high body count of Gunsmoke.
We listened to the radio version of Gunsmoke in Japan. This starred William Conrad as Matt Dillon.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Trump will indeed agree to debates…but only if they’re on “friendly” terms. In other words, he’s going to insist on at least one debate being on Faux, he’s going to insist that they be “townhalls” so he can stalk around and be a creepy fucker on live TV, and he’s going to want moderators that are “fair” (i.e. will let him ramble at length and not call him on his BS).
For example, the way Maddow actually read aloud one of Bernie’s old quotes and then made clear it was a quote when he tried to claim it was “misinterpreted”? Yeah, Donny would have flipped his fucking lid on live TV.
re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, although the Scientist in me keeps whispering “Correlation is not causation”, and “N = 1 is too small a statistical universe”.
The unleaded gas correlation has real evidence to back up the odds of causation.
That violent crimes started dropping 16 years after unleaded began replacing leaded gas… happened in multiple countries, and throughout the US. Some places had economic growth, some didn’t. Some had stricter policing, some didn’t. But every country, everywhere, had violent crime rates that rose and fell with a 16-year time lag between more leaded gas being sold, and less. Small towns, medium size towns, big cities. Neighborhoods near the freeway, and further from the freeway. The US, Europe, South America and Asia.
And there’s copious medical evidence of the mechanism for why childhood exposure to lead fumes or lead in the water makes people more violent when they reach the Prime Crime Years (late teens). Cognitive effects, diminished impulse control, etc.
re: #91 Decatur Deb
Heh. Our first tour was Seoul in ‘80. AFKN was sort of in business, with the famously high body count of Gunsmoke.
True enough on the body count but at least they paid for decent writers who could do real dialog and knew what a plot was even within the genre’s tropes and confines. It’s the only TV western I can sit down and watch now. The rest just make me shake my head.
Now I really want to see an english translation of the German over dub of Hogan’s Heroes…
Japanese TV in the 50s was inundated with Samurai adventure shows, most of which were very much like the westerns that dominated American TV during that period. Except for my brother Doug, who learned Japanese from our nanny as a toddler, we could not understand the words. We referred to them as “Japanese sword-fight movies.”
re: #87 William Lewis
So, I had a few moments, a handful of nails, a hammer and an empty wall…
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Nothing exciting but it’s nice to get them up on the wall. Have a guitar stand for the other two but that’s because they’re the ones I am currently exercising with (my new one plus a short kindjal style for sword and buckler work. ).
We have a sword hanging on the kitchen wall.
It gets used to hang plastic bags full of breads, cookies, candy, etc. that we want to keep out of reach from the dogs, cats, assorted rodents…
re: #95 William Lewis
True enough on the body count but at least the paid for decent writers who could do real dialog and knew what a plot was even within the genre’s tropes and confines. It’s the only TV western I can sit down and watch now. The rest just make me shake my head.
Now I really want to see an english translation of the German over dub of Hogan’s Heroes…
Wife beat me by two tours to Bamberg/Vilseck in the early 50s and 60s. Little TV, but she did get to see Elvis.
NPR resurfaces 1975 interview with Biden supporting constitutional amendment to end court-ordered busing
“That would clearly do it. We are trying to figure out whether or not we can come up with an innovative piece of legislation which would limit the remedy and I honestly don’t know whether we can come up with something constitutional,” Biden said when asked about an amendment. “I’m going to go at it through a constitutional amendment if it can’t be done through a piece of legislation.
Ouch
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
It does, however, open up the line of questioning as to whether he changed his beliefs on the topic, and if not why not.
Everyone has a past, and sometimes it matters and sometimes not (see Trumpers ignoring Trump’s history.)
re: #101 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
It does, however, open up the line of questioning as to whether he changed his beliefs on the topic, and if not why not.
Everyone has a past, and sometimes it matters and sometimes not (see Trumpers ignoring Trump’s history.)
That approach is understandable. You would want to ensure that he has modified his beliefs.
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
Nobody loved busing except bus manufacturers. It was a necessary stopgap, but it was horrible in execution and the burden fell dis-proportionally on AA kids. The harder, fairer answer was subsidized integration of neighborhoods, and that wasn’t going to happen fast. The greatest outcry was in the North, Southie Boston and madison WI IIRC. The South had less trouble with it because they used the local power structure to subvert public education with private segregation academies.
re: #87 William Lewis
So, I had a few moments, a handful of nails, a hammer and an empty wall…
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Nothing exciting but it’s nice to get them up on the wall. Have a guitar stand for the other two but that’s because they’re the ones I am currently exercising with (my new one plus a short kindjal style for sword and buckler work. ).
So which one is actually a gun?
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re: #93 Targetpractice
I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Trump will indeed agree to debates…but only if they’re on “friendly” terms. In other words, he’s going to insist on at least one debate being on Faux, he’s going to insist that they be “townhalls” so he can stalk around and be a creepy fucker on live TV, and he’s going to want moderators that are “fair” (i.e. will let him ramble at length and not call him on his BS).
For example, the way Maddow actually read aloud one of Bernie’s old quotes and then made clear it was a quote when he tried to claim it was “misinterpreted”? Yeah, Donny would have flipped his fucking lid on live TV.
His opponent is going to have to do most of the moderating. and when trump calls her a nasty woman what is she going to say? (I really don’t have an answer to this, but I know the debate prep team is going to try and come up with something).
re: #99 Kilroy was here
NPR resurfaces 1975 interview with Biden supporting constitutional amendment to end court-ordered busing
Ouch
Didn’t we have someone here who disliked court ordered bussing? And it wasn’t DF.
re: #77 William Lewis
Unleaded Gas and loosened up abortion leading to fewer unwanted children had an amazing impact on lowering crime rates.
Those were big, but I think other factors like the promise of civil rights without the results, the return of tens of thousands of Vietnam war vets from a disastrous adventure, the brutal economy of the 1970s….
re: #106 Belafon
Didn’t we have someone here who disliked court ordered bussing? And it wasn’t DF.
See my 103. It had to be done, but it had brutal impact on kids and the education budgets.
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
I’m gonna have to disagree, if a candidate’s campaign strategy relies upon running on their record, then people are gonna look at that record and bring up the less savory parts of it. It’s sort of hard to fault anybody who digs through the dirt and turns up a pile of bones.
re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To
His opponent is going to have to do most of the moderating. and when trump calls her a nasty woman what is she going to say? (I really don’t have an answer to this, but I know the debate prep team is going to try and come up with something).
“Such a nasty woman”
“You sexually assaulted over a dozen people”
re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s exactly the book I was thinking of, but it’s true of a lot of others. Fear of crime, because of the unexpected rise, was rampant at the time. And by 1970 when he published that, he was already an Old White Guy.
There’s also the fact that most of SciFi then was written by White Guys, which also skewed things a bit. (probably also true now).
There are many, many female sci-fi writers. I would also suggest that the ratio of good:poor female sci-fi writers is higher than men.
Ed-geeze, how many articles and nouns can I leave out?
re: #87 William Lewis
So, I had a few moments, a handful of nails, a hammer and an empty wall…
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Nothing exciting but it’s nice to get them up on the wall. Have a guitar stand for the other two but that’s because they’re the ones I am currently exercising with (my new one plus a short kindjal style for sword and buckler work. ).
Anthropomorphic hilt Celtic swords….
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
It’s the refusal to come to grips with it that will torpedo his candidacy.
Yikes!
The town of Villevieille in southern France saw 113.2 degrees Fahrenheit today. https://t.co/TFqbJQrNMN
— NPR (@NPR) June 28, 2019
The record high here at Mineral Wells was 113.9 degrees on June 29, 1980. We are more than 10 degrees farther south than Villevieille.
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
Unless it reinforces things he’s been saying THIS WEEK.
re: #113 Scottish Dragon
It’s the refusal to come to grips with it that will torpedo his candidacy.
Yes, that could well do so.
I was more pointing out that if someone popped out solely the interview I would not toss Biden’s candidacy on the trash heap without doing further investigation/research to see whether his viewpoint and policies regarding race relations had changed since then.
Joe stood up on stage last night and responded to Kamala’s criticism of his past by reaching even further back into said past. He reached all the way back to when he was a practicing lawyer and public defender, white predates his election to Congress. So yes, much like in a court of law, he opened the door to criticism of his past by using it to defend himself.
re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To
“Thank you for that Mr. President. If “xyz naming off every progressive and moral ideal” makes me a nasty woman, then I’m the nastiest bitch you’ll ever come face to face with.”
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m sorry, but a *44* year-old interview should not torpedo Biden’s candidacy.
Biden fans could call this “Byrding” after Senator Robert Byrd, whose KuKluxKlan membership in his 20s was notorious. He was required to explain himself, and explain himself he did, with a comprehensive public rejection of his earlier attitudes. The same should be required of Biden before he can go any further.
re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus
“Thank you for that Mr. President. If “xyz naming off every progressive and moral ideal” makes me a nasty woman, then I’m the nastiest bitch you’ll ever come face to face with.”
works for me.
and this made me like her more
Just a reminder that real American hero @mpinoe was the first professional athlete outside of American football to join @Kaepernick7’s protest. pic.twitter.com/qEqq98FhEa
— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) June 28, 2019
re: #120 I Would Prefer Not To
Should they win, he won’t even bother inviting them.
re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus
Should they win, he won’t even bother inviting them.
They can find a Burger King on their own.
re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus
Should they win, he won’t even bother inviting them.
The next president can invite them for a belated celebration.
re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Yikes!
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The record high here at Mineral Wells was 113.9 degrees on June 29, 1980. We are more than 10 degrees farther south than Villevieille.
Mineral Wells. That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.
re: #122 Decatur Deb
They can find a Burger King on their own.
And have an appetite since Trump won’t be around to spoil it.
re: #112 Scottish Dragon
Anthropomorphic hilt Celtic swords….
From a custom smith in Oklahoma. I got a huge discount because the straight sided one has some stains on the metal and the other was thrown in for silly cheap. Very nice blades, quite good replicas of late model iron blades but made in modern 5160 :D These are not going to bend that easily…
re: #124 Belafon
Mineral Wells. That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.
I had orders for there in 1965, to be an 84 Bravo photographer. Threw myself out of a duece and screwed it up.
WOW! This photo is from Kathleen Kirpach. Taken over south Moccasin mountains tonight during tornado warning earlier tonight. They are 7 miles north of Lewistown on Highway 191. #mtnews pic.twitter.com/LeVDCNbYzF
— Evelyn Schultz (@EvieSchultz) June 28, 2019
Once again, AOC answers the call. I’m going for my beach walk
It may not be the White House, but we’d be happy to welcome @mPinoe & the entire #USWMNT for a tour of the House of Representatives anytime they’d like. 🇺🇸 https://t.co/ccgqE8vCds
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) June 28, 2019
re: #128 Charles Johnson
Brace yourselves, Cthulu is coming!
re: #113 Scottish Dragon
It’s the refusal to come to grips with it that will torpedo his candidacy.
Pretty much this.
If he just puts on the brakes now and goes “You know what? I fucked up. I’ve been tone-deaf about race, as a few weeks, ago. I need to and will do better for the sake of the country”, his problems are severely curbed.
I just don’t think Uncle Joe has it in him. I think he’s got that ego problem that Bill Clinton had. Actually the same thing Trump has. Never admit to a mistake.
re: #131 Mattand
Pretty much this.
If he just puts on the brakes now and goes “You know what? I fucked up. I’ve been tone-deaf about race, as a few weeks, ago. I need to and will do better for the sake of the country”, his problems are severely curbed.
I just don’t think Uncle Joe has it in him. I think he’s got that ego problem that Bill Clinton had. Actually the same thing Trump has. Never admit to a mistake.
The big problem (IMHO) is that Joe really only has his record to run on. And, as we saw last night, that’s been found wanting in a modern Dem presidential field. He tried to boast about how he’d managed to get Sen Yertle to agree on bills, only to immediately get dunked on for agreeing as part of those bills to make Dubya’s tax cuts permanent.
re: #122 Decatur Deb
They can find a Burger King on their own.
and drive past it to an actual restaurant that serves really good food.
Just waiting for Trump to have a winning basketball team comprised mostly of blacks and have KFC instead of the usual burgers, and say, “Do I know what You People like, or what?”
re: #90 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Friend from Peru’s family thought the people of the 🇺🇸 were idiots, because of the laugh tracks on the shows they watched.
Time to cook. (mmm Maruchan). Fingers are probably not broken, just making ugly popping noises.
re: #139 Decatur Deb
Fuck, is he still alive?
Yeah but he doesn’t look anything like his picture any more.
A quick hug, a fleeting kiss, and then we must bid each other adieu! Alas! https://t.co/6FZSSNxe1e
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 28, 2019
re: #131 Mattand
Pretty much this.
If he just puts on the brakes now and goes “You know what? I fucked up. I’ve been tone-deaf about race, as a few weeks, ago. I need to and will do better for the sake of the country”, his problems are severely curbed.
I just don’t think Uncle Joe has it in him. I think he’s got that ego problem that Bill Clinton had. Actually the same thing Trump has. Never admit to a mistake.
he still has to fix that “son” vs “boy” thing…
re: #138 Skip Intro
Sorry Bryan, you fail. The Bible says we are ALL God’s Children and this planet was made for ALL of us.
Care to try again?
re: #21 Scottish Dragon
And that is what really bothers me, because Joe was formidable in 2008 in debate.
If you mean the VP debate - he was debating Palin - it was not difficult to appear all knowing and smart in that situation. In the primaries he dropped out.
For me Joe is an OK Joe. I didn’t see anything of particular value that he did in his 8 years with President Obama - although he may have done much to support the latter without my knowledge. I did see that he got no-where with the gun debate when given that task.
re: #138 Skip Intro
Is this some new thing they’ve come up with? This is the second time I’ve seen this in two days, and it certainly sounds like the sort of thing these simpleminded yutzes find so impressive and think will completely shut the Libs up.
GOP man screaming over a woman, because of course.
Pennsylvania State @SenatorMuth refused to stop reading a letter from a man who experienced homelessness even though her male colleague (R) Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman tried to shout her down for nearly three minutes pic.twitter.com/N5GjlQbUHU
— vlh (@coton_luver) June 28, 2019
Even leaving aside the whole National Security aspects of this, this is cringe-inducingly needy.
After some very important meetings, including my meeting with President Xi of China, I will be leaving Japan for South Korea (with President Moon). While there, if Chairman Kim of North Korea sees this, I would meet him at the Border/DMZ just to shake his hand and say Hello(?)!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 28, 2019
re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White
Even leaving aside the whole National Security aspects of this, this is cringe-inducingly needy.
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“Kim, you haven’t called me today! CALL ME!”
re: #150 Targetpractice
“Kim, you haven’t called me today! CALL ME!”
“Hello? It’s me, Don - AGAIN! Look, I realize I’ve left you…well, a LOT of messages, but really, I just want to talk! I know you’re busy, and you said you just wanted to be friends, and I respect that, but how can we be friends if you won’t call back? Maybe I’ll drop a bomb on you if you don’t call me? HAHAHA!!! Just kidding!!! I’d never do that! It was a joke! Really! But, you know, PLEASE call me! Okay, bye!….This is Don. You have my number, right? Or you could just push redial. Okay, really, this time - bye!…….Or you could write a letter, you know how much I LOVE your letters! But, you know, SOON. Okay, bye.”
re: #151 Blind Frog Belly White
“Hello? It’s me, Don - AGAIN! Look, I realize I’ve left you…well, a LOT of messages, but really, I just want to talk! I know you’re busy, and you said you just wanted to be friends, and I respect that, but how can we be friends if you won’t call back? Maybe I’ll drop a bomb on you if you don’t call me? HAHAHA!!! Just kidding!!! I’d never do that! It was a joke! Really! But, you know, PLEASE call me! Okay, bye!….This is Don. You have my number, right? Or you could just push redial. Okay, really, this time - bye!…….Or you could write a letter, you know how much I LOVE your letters! But, you know, SOON. Okay, bye.”
If Kim isn’t careful, he might find a pot with a boiled bunny waiting for him.
re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
We listened to the radio version of Gunsmoke in Japan. This starred William Conrad as Matt Dillon.
We didn’t have a TV until 1959. I remember hearing Gunsmoke with William Conrad and John Dehner was Paladin on Radio’s Have Gun Will Travel!
I hope the power stays on.
Metro Detroit weather: Large hail, severe thunderstorms possible Friday evening https://t.co/dLtVYeUIW7
— Local 4 WDIV Detroit (@Local4News) June 28, 2019
This isn’t about a hoodie. It’s about a culture that sees a problem with a kid wearing a hoodie in the first place. Our nominee needs to have the language to talk about race in a far more constructive way. https://t.co/c2BFSSOHro
— Cory Booker (@CoryBooker) June 28, 2019
‘Are you not entertained?’ — Megan Rapinoe goes full gladiator mode vs. France after sparring with Trump
re: #13 Scottish Dragon
Could someone please explain the logic behind deporting men and women who voluntarily serve in our military (and their families)? It doesn’t make a lick of sense on multiple levels. This just lowers the morale of other military personnel.
re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White
Even leaving aside the whole National Security aspects of this, this is cringe-inducingly needy.
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Only word I can think of is pitiful Like someone pleading for kindness from an abuser.
re: #159 Patricia Kayden
Could someone please explain the logic behind deporting men and women who voluntarily serve in our military (and their families)? It doesn’t make a lick of sense on multiple levels. This just lowers the morale of other military personnel.
The logic is simple: They’re brown. Full stop.
re: #148 Scottish Dragon
GOP man screaming over a woman, because of course.
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It was glorious to see John Fetterman ignore that fucking Republican!
re: #159 Patricia Kayden
Could someone please explain the logic behind deporting men and women who voluntarily serve in our military (and their families)? It doesn’t make a lick of sense on multiple levels. This just lowers the morale of other military personnel.
White nationalism.
Just found the fresh corpse of a peregrine falcon in my yard which doesn’t seem ominous at all …
— Cocked & Loaded Frank (@goddamnedfrank) June 29, 2019
re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth
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You’re not gonna be able to outrun it, Joe. You’re gonna have to confront it sooner or later. Better sooner than later, so that any outrage has had time to pass.
I had to go back and watch the exchange between Harris and Biden again, because I thought I must have misinterpreted - there was no way Biden actually defended the “states’ rights” argument against desegregation.
But he did. He really did.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 28, 2019
Honestly, I suspect what’s going on at Team Biden is a belief that they can just “ride out” this whole racism business. “They’ll get over it” is the empty assurance going around, the idea that if they just keep their heads down then the base will “move on” to a topic on which Joe can seem like the wise elder to the field of squabbling children.
It ain’t so, Joe.
re: #165 Targetpractice
You’re not gonna be able to outrun it, Joe. You’re gonna have to confront it sooner or later. Better sooner than later, so that any outrage has had time to pass.
Now lost his largest financial backer today. That guy said he expects others to follow suit.
re: #168 Targetpractice
Honestly, I suspect what’s going on at Team Biden is a belief that they can just “ride out” this whole racism business. “They’ll get over it” is the empty assurance going around, the idea that if they just keep their heads down then the base will “move on” to a topic on which Joe can seem like the wise elder to the field of squabbling children.
It ain’t so, Joe.
It’s exactly the same thing the other old white man is hoping to do. And that’s not something the Democratic party can accept.
re: #159 Patricia Kayden
Could someone please explain the logic behind deporting men and women who voluntarily serve in our military (and their families)? It doesn’t make a lick of sense on multiple levels. This just lowers the morale of other military personnel.
Nobody actually matters.
Scary different people have to be hurt to establish a power dynamic that feels “safe.”
People that have utility can be temporarily accommodated—appeased, told the right thing things—that make them compliant…
…but ultimately they don’t matter, and should just be grateful they’re permitted perform their function as commanded rather than be hurt.
re: #148 Scottish Dragon
I swear to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Republicans are becoming increasingly unhinged. No joke.
#Russia’s state TV revels in the idea that Trump arrived early & had to stand around waiting for Putin, along with Ivanka, Kushner, Bolton and Pompeo. To make fun of Trump, they show an Internet meme that depicts Trump welcoming Putin with Russian karavai on an embroidered towel. pic.twitter.com/Ruef0h2H8l
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) June 28, 2019
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) June 28, 2019
re: #171 The Ghost of Quesos Past
Sorry if that’s opaque, but I’m deadly serious.
They don’t care about morale because ultimately they don’t view soldiers as people.
And they never have. Hence the cult of dead soldiers contrasted with the condescension heaped on the survivors who are damaged.
re: #169 MsJ
Now lost his largest financial backer today. That guy said he expects others to follow suit.
It would seem that the initial takes from some last night that Joe had done well enough (I’m lookin’ at you, Josh) were a bit optimistic.
re: #171 The Ghost of Quesos Past
People who volunteer in our military aren’t “scary different people” though. They’re volunteering to defend this country from enemies domestic and abroad. Deporting them is just a prick move with no discernible upside or benefit.
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
People who volunteer in our military aren’t “scary different people” though. They’re volunteering to defend this country from enemies domestic and abroad. Deporting them is just a prick move with no discernible upside or benefit.
“Scary different people” = non-whites.
re: #174 The Ghost of Quesos Past
Sorry if that’s opaque, but I’m deadly serious.
They don’t care about morale because ultimately they don’t view soldiers as people.
And they never have. Hence the cult of dead soldiers contrasted with the condescension heaped on the survivors who are damaged.
I said once that the wingnuts only have two uses for soldiers: martyrs and campaign set pieces.
I stick by that statement because it remains true. These are people who passed around rumors that both Max Cleland and John Kerry injured themselves through their own idiocy if not intentionally in order to impugn their service records. A cult that worships at the altar of a man whose war-time service in WWII was starring in propaganda movies.
It’s really stunning that all these years after Brown vs BOE, conservatives are still trying to push the same old misleading bullshit to justify pure and simple racism.
And depressing that one of the leading Dem candidates _still_ appears to agree with the bullshit. https://t.co/EJUfVINSKY— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
re: #9 The Vicious Babushka
Did you get any info from Twitter on why you were suspended?
re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth
Repeat what I wrote the other day - time has passed Joe by.
Not all 70 year olds are tone deaf to their contemporary culture… but some are. Biden is the latter I think.
I don’t know how this guy manages to tie his shoes without hurting himself. pic.twitter.com/fCpPC2ybX7
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
re: #173 Dread Pirate
Those two are worth saving for the next time you see a MAGAt.
re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Not all 70 year olds are tone deaf to their contemporary culture… but some are. Biden is the latter I think.
I’d argue that Biden’s issue is (as I noted above) that he really only have his record to run on. Or, as one Farker put it earlier today, he’s set up perfectly to run…as Obama’s VP in 2008. His campaign would have been much more successful a decade ago, when the party was older, whiter, and more forgiving of shit done in the Civil Rights Era. Hell, I found myself imaging last night the sort of bloody knife fight that would have broke out had he and Hillary actually run against each other in 2016, as each tried to one-up the other for how much they’d done for minorities as white people back-in-the-day.
Contemporary America is where Trump is trying to install a new era of fascism and where old time religious conservatives want to turn back to before the Civil Rights era.
If any Democratic candidate cannot directly address that and counter those backward movements, said candidate does not belong on stage as a contender.
People are really sensitive about criticisms of Biden’s health, so I deleted a tweet about this last night. But watching it again I found it even more striking how much Biden slurred his words and sort of lost the thread. He’s been at it so long he still manages to pull it off most of the time, but honestly I think there’s something not good going on there.
Maybe I’ll have to delete this comment too. But this is a problem that doesn’t go away if we ignore it.
re: #187 Charles Johnson
No knock against Biden, and I know there are advantages to age and wisdom, but I’m sick of old white people running the country. We could use a little youth and a little color.
What’s that you say? @gatewaypundit thoroughly beclowned himself again today?
It’s so perfectly symbolic that this bumbling self-hating hatemonger has one of the most popular right wing sites.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
re: #159 Patricia Kayden
Could someone please explain the logic behind deporting men and women who voluntarily serve in our military (and their families)? It doesn’t make a lick of sense on multiple levels. This just lowers the morale of other military personnel.
Since the past they seek to preserve is largely imaginary, Trump and the conservatives are unaware that enlisting non-citizens is a time honored tradition in the US armed forces.
More than half the cavalrymen who died with Custer at Little Bighorn were foreign born.
One who survived was Lt. Charles DeRudio, an Italian aristocrat whose career reads like lurid fiction. He survived a shipwreck as a young man, then joined a group of revolutionaries who tried to assassinate Napoleon III at the Paris Opera. Unlike some of his colleagues, he avoided the guillotine and was sent to Devil’s Island. He escaped and made his way to the US, where he joined the Union Army during the Civil War. He was the most wanted man in Europe by then, but the army had little regard for French justice and was interested in keeping any warm body they could acquire. He survived the war, and stayed on, joining the 7th cavalry in 1867. He survived Little Bighorn because Custer disliked him and replaced him with one of his favorites, Lt. Algernon Smith, as commander of Company E. Smith and “E” rode with Custer to the center of the village and were wiped out. DeRudio, meanwhile, had been assigned to Major Marcus Reno, who attacked the south side of the village. Left behind in the subsequent rout, DeRudio and Private Thomas O’Neill (also an immigrant, btw) spent 36 harrowing hours hiding in the bushes along the Little Bighorn creek.
Amazingly, DeRudio lived to be 78, dying of natural causes in 1910.
The single most insipiring athlete in America this week: Megan Rapinoe
Rapinoe’s week:
1) Scored both goals against Spain
2) Told Trump to eff off
3) Scored both goals against France#TeamRapinoe pic.twitter.com/MnNTGtkm1j— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 28, 2019
re: #189 Charles Johnson
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re: #187 Charles Johnson
Aging is idiosyncratic though of course there is a basic trajectory for humans.
I’ve known people in the 70’s who are quite sharp and fast of wit and engaged in what is happening around them.
And I’ve known plenty of people in their 60’s who have for practical purposes checked out and are just waiting to expire.
But for running for Presidency, especially the need to counter the attacks on decency that the Trump engine engages, we need someone with a great deal of insight and energy to hammer Trump and Trumpers and the entire GOP relentlessly.
My mother is in the hospital. She had tachycardia, which they tried to correct today by running wires up from her groin area and burning out particular parts of the heart.
I did not know she was in the hospital until she called me late this afternoon herself (with a very scratchy voice from a tube down her throat this morning). No one in my family would call either my sister or myself because they have disowned us due to their religious beliefs.
I called my sister to fill her in since my mother could only talk long enough for one short call.
She is expected to be released in a day or two, and the medicos will find out whether the procedure was successful.
re: #195 Anymouse 🌹
Prayers to your family. And that royally sucks that you had to find out that way. You know my story, you know why I am the way I am, and I feel you.
re: #195 Anymouse 🌹
Sorry to hear that. Family members can be so mean sometimes.
re: #191 Belafon
From that picture, it looks like some deity started by designing long legs and then realized they have to attach a control system.
Whenever Donald Trump leaves the US and represents us to the world, America’s reputation suffers another body blow. He isn’t just embarrassing and cloddish - he’s endangering national security, either deliberately or as a side effect of his pathological egomania.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
You’re right…it’s a bad move that makes no sense…but the people making these kinds of decisions are doing so from inside a head-space that’s hard to simulate. These aren’t people working from the same operational premises, and thus their “logic” about how this will work doesn’t make sense.
The closest I can come to explaining it is to repeat their operational premises—post 171—from which the closest thing they do to “logic” emanates.
Some of these people are basically narcissists and don’t think about other people as people, so they don’t care what soldiers feel any more than they care about immigrants. People only exist as functional units and as threats. They won’t anticipate a morale problem and when one arises they’ll hate and resent the soldiers with morale problems.
Some of these people are doing magical thinking, where the thing they want for purely self-fulfilling reasons…like brown people gone…will fix everything else even though they can’t explain the mechanism of how that works. So morale won’t be an issue. When it doesn’t work, they’ll deny their idea was flawed.
Some of these people see themselves as the top of an inherent hierarchy—the “betters” that make everything work for everyone else—and view everyone else as subordinate, and thus perceive a lot of relationships in terms of deference and receipt of gratitude. Soldiers may be feted, but they’re also expected to do what they’re told by the higher orders.
Most of the assholes on the right lash together narcissism, nihilism, and aristocratic sentiment in some combination. As a consequence, none of the shit they do makes a lot of sense.
re: #200 Charles Johnson
After watching Megan Rapinoe and her retinue of talented teammates dismantle the French this afternoon, one of my co-workers commented to me, “Between Trump and the US Women’s Team, it’s a bad day to be an American in France.”
re: #195 Anymouse 🌹
Ablation is used to control tachycardia. That is what the wires are used for. For some reason that could not be used in my late mom’s case. Her pacemaker (natural) was oblong and when the tachycardia would start you could actually feel a double beat.
GEORGE LOOKS INNOCENT TO ME
HE LOOKS JUST AS SURPRISED AS ANYBODY TBH https://t.co/IcZ2od6fN3— darth™ (@darth) June 28, 2019
IOW unhealthy people will sometimes throw a salad into the mix but healthy people don’t make a habit out of regularly consuming garbage.
— Cocked & Loaded Frank (@goddamnedfrank) June 29, 2019
re: #187 Charles Johnson
I hope you didn’t take that down on my account. I may not always agree but I would hope it wouldn’t come to that.
The mans been through hell and back. And sees a void.
All this purity and left and left crap has me concerned. Getting tinpot out should be the only pressing issue.
I’ve said this before. All I want is some stability and a few quiet days….
Whoops. She thought is was a Can-O-Whoopass and it was really a can-o-worms…. Again, Whoops.
— 🦈E-Mail Terminator🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) June 29, 2019
re: #197 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Thank you for your kind thoughts. My mother should be alright in a day or two.
re: #203 PhillyPretzel
Ablation is used to control tachycardia. That is what the wires are used for. For some reason that could not be used in my late mom’s case. Her pacemaker (natural) was oblong and when the tachycardia would start you could actually feel a double beat.
That was the term she used to describe her procedure this morning (I couldn’t remember it when I posted my comment).
A double heartbeat would feel really weird.
re: #208 Anymouse 🌹
Yes. It is an odd feeling. And since it is fast it makes it difficult to count. The highest I ever counted was close to 200 beats a minute.
re: #206 Dave In Austin
VP Biden has lost so much in his life, I agree.
But that is more a reason for him to go take care of himself, than it is for someone else to vote for him.
I like him for a couple of reasons but it became very clear that he is just out of time. He’s a throwback to an era when walking a tightrope in this country, between say civil rights on the one hand and coddling old-time bigots on the other (for the sake of their votes) was de rigueur in the Democratic Party leadership.
That day is over, it has to be over.
Biden strikes me as someone who thinks he’s running in 1980 against Reagan. In that election Biden would have been seen as a reasonable alternative to Reagan. But today Biden just seems to miss why certain issues are hot buttons.
re: #206 Dave In Austin
I hope you didn’t take that down on my account. I may not always agree but I would hope it wouldn’t come to that.
The mans been through hell and back. And sees a void.
All this purity and left and left crap has me concerned. Getting tinpot out should be the only pressing issue.
I’ve said this before. All I want is some stability and a few quiet days….
Your remark goes to the meme I see occasionally which says something like “the Democratic candidate may not be your first choice. She or he may support things which you don’t. Deal with it.”
It’s difficult to express the horror of this moment. https://t.co/NZJq0TkTcA
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
Well, the temperature here dropped below 100°F just now (yay 98). Today’s high was 107.
No rain on the radar. The NWS says we might get some tomorrow.
I was talking with a couple farmers in Scottsbluff yesterday. They said they were glad for a break in the rain (we’re way over our annual amount), but damn hot makes it damn hard to work in the fields.
re: #200 Charles Johnson
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Madeleine Albright: Trump is using the G20 “to insult our allies and make jokes with somebody that is trying to undermine the American system of democracy as well as really militarize information in central and eastern Europe. I find appalling.”https://t.co/qbiCgP8jrb
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 28, 2019
This is who they are. https://t.co/hmOrUGButE
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
As Donald Trump mocks our media outlets on the world’s stage again, let’s not forget today is the one year anniversary of the murders of 4 journalist and an employee of the Capital Gazette in Annapolis, MD. Trump’s rhetoric puts journalists lives in danger. pic.twitter.com/iKn40rQx60
— liberté (@favora_2018) June 28, 2019
re: #206 Dave In Austin
I hope you didn’t take that down on my account. I may not always agree but I would hope it wouldn’t come to that.
The mans been through hell and back. And sees a void.
All this purity and left and left crap has me concerned. Getting tinpot out should be the only pressing issue.
I’ve said this before. All I want is some stability and a few quiet days….
So, Gabbard or Williamson?
While I will vote for any Democrat, right now we can choose to figure out which person will be able to begin fixing stuff. And I think a safe, conservative choice will be uninspiring and depress Democratic turnout.
To Do List: remember to pick up fuel for flamethrower. https://t.co/ghv1S2EjpK
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 29, 2019
After a long Friday in the Senate, it sure is great to be out in McLean with a room FULL of fired up Democrats ready to win everything from the State Senate to the school board in Virginia in 2019… And you should hear the applause when I tell them I’m @AnneHolton’s husband!! pic.twitter.com/vwhiyTUvtw
— Tim Kaine (@timkaine) June 29, 2019
Nothing says, “I’m an entitled, soulless, ignorant little brat,” like telling one of the greatest humanitarians walking the planet to “sit down,” while praising a serial predator with contempt for human life.
Keep wasting your time on the planet.
Super work, Tomi…— John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz) June 28, 2019
re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth
Damn. I don’t think a flamethrower would be enough. Might need to nuke it from orbit to be sure.
re: #222 Anymouse 🌹
Damn. I don’t think a flamethrower would be enough. Might need to nuke it from orbit to be sure.
Jim is more of an old school hands-on kind of guy
re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth
Jim is more of an old school hands-on kind of guy
I torched a smaller nest with a can of gasoline and a box of matches, but on that scale? I’m calling the National Guard, kthxbai.
Well, for those of you who fear pineapple on pizza…
How about…
PINEAPPLE ON HOT DOGS??????
— Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) June 29, 2019
Okay, aside from the main issue (i.e deSantis being a disenfranchising douchenozzle), I have a question - why the actual fuck do people have to identify their race when registering to vote?! There is NOTHING like this in Canada, nothing remotely close!
Of the formerly incarcerated Floridians who registered to vote in January, February & March of this year, more than 44% identified themselves in their voter registration forms as Black, whereas Black voters comprise 13% of Florida’s overall voter population.
— Brennan Center (@BrennanCenter) June 28, 2019
re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well, for those of you who fear pineapple on pizza…
How about…
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Aidell’s makes a pineapple bacon smoked sausage that’s pretty darned tasty
re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well, for those of you who fear pineapple on pizza…
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why joe why
re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well, for those of you who fear pineapple on pizza…
How about…
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PINEAPPLE ON HOT DOGS??????
when one considers the composition of the typical hot dog, adding pineapple would appear to be an improvement
re: #229 Interesting Times
Okay, aside from the main issue (i.e deSantis being a disenfranchising douchenozzle), I have a question - why the actual fuck do people have to identify their race when registering to vote?!
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I’m pretty sure they don’t *have* to. It’s usually optional, just for informational purposes.
re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹
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That is enough to convince me that marketing people are really demons, and I don’t believe in demons.
Now, America’s birthday celebration has a VIP section. You need to know somebody. https://t.co/Ua9PGcUm09
— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) June 29, 2019
This raises an important civic question: why do we rely on banks to tell us the temperature in the United States, when in France they rely on pharmacies? https://t.co/NK4MUezR0W
— Pinboard (@Pinboard) June 29, 2019
President Trump, on the DMZ:
“By the way, you talk about a wall, when you talk about a border, that’s what they call a border. Nobody goes through that border.”— David Gura (@davidgura) June 29, 2019
re: #239 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #235 garzooma
I’m pretty sure they don’t *have* to. It’s usually optional, just for informational purposes.
Optional in Alabama. I encourage self-identification because it generates some useful data for political sci/sociology types.
re: #229 Interesting Times
Okay, aside from the main issue (i.e deSantis being a disenfranchising douchenozzle), I have a question - why the actual fuck do people have to identify their race when registering to vote?! There is NOTHING like this in Canada, nothing remotely close!
Identifying race is a leftover from Jim Crow days after Reconstruction. That combined with felon disenfranchisement laws, and felony laws disproportionately applied to freed slaves and other minorities allowed white supremacist governance to continue.
When the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, such disenfranchisement laws were kept on the books under rubrics such as “tough on crime.” Nixon’s so-called War on Drugs was primarily targeted at minority communities for the purpose of disenfranchisement.
Don’t call conservatives racists though, that hurts their feelings.
In most democratic nations, people convicted of similar crimes can vote (sometimes while in jail).
In Nebraska, a felon who has completed his or her sentence has his or her voting rights restored after two years, unless convicted for treason under state law. (The law was changed to restore felon voting rights in 2005.)
re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I like pineapple on pizza, but this … monstrosity …
GET. OUT.
I’ve had fish with pineapple and tomato, and a sauce on pork that was partially made from pineapple. I don’t see how this would be much different.
re: #242 Anymouse 🌹
Uhhh. It works for a racial, gender or other minority to demonstrate their power through counting registered voters. The only thing all politicians can do is count votes.
re: #245 Decatur Deb
Uhhh. It works for a racial, gender or other minority to demonstrate their power through counting registered voters. The only thing all politicians can do is count votes.
This is a list by state of what’s required to regain your voting rights if convicted as a felon in the USA.
Two states do not strip voting rights at all (Maine and Vermont). In those states you can vote while in prison during your sentence.
not sure who this “us” is that Evan is referring to
aside from that though…
Hey, have you ever noticed how Republican politicians are always making it harder for people to vote, or submitting fraudulent ballots for unsuspecting voters, or purging people from electoral rolls, or siding with interfering foreign powers? Kinda feels like…they fear us.🤔 https://t.co/FNdzXEJV0M
— Evan McMullin (@EvanMcMullin) June 29, 2019
When I hear you’re willing to mistreat children (the least of these) and deny them care, it’s pretty obvious you will turn on anyone to save yourself.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) June 29, 2019
And every person for themselves is what will get most people killed.
re: #246 Anymouse 🌹
This is a list by state of what’s required to regain your voting rights if convicted as a felon in the USA.
Two states do not strip voting rights at all (Maine and Vermont). In those states you can vote while in prison during your sentence.
Alabama too, if your felony was not one of a small list of “moral turpitude” crimes. A friend has forced several sheriffs to let him register voters in the jail. Prisoners also vote by mail as “absentee” from their home county.
Let him go! He doesn’t need security to visit his bud.
I’m all for it.
Go. Bye. See ya.— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) June 29, 2019
re: #237 teleskiguy
Yet better come all to DC and join:https://t.co/5eJeCaHtWi
— GC (@NotAnAppleFan) June 29, 2019
re: #205 goddamnedfrank
Most conservatives aren’t following liberals for their insights. On the other hand, I am following a few Never-Trumper types.
re: #250 MsJ
He’s lying.
When the White House asks journalists not to publish sensitive information because of national security concerns… only to have the president tweet it out a few days later —> https://t.co/dqidfm62Y8
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) June 29, 2019
re: #247 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
not sure who this “us” is that Evan is referring to
aside from that though…
He replied in that thread.
“We the People of the United States…”
— Evan McMullin (@EvanMcMullin) June 29, 2019
Into the tundra today.
Moose! Caribou! Ravens! Ground squirrels! Hikers! Magpie! Prairie dogs! Dall specks sheep! Glaciers! (No bears.)
…And Denali, but that’s so yesterday.
Still bloody hot, and the permafrost is definitely melting.
About time.
Texas bishop escorts migrants across the border in protest of U.S. policy
nydailynews.com
re: #257 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…
Into the tundra today.
Moose! Caribou! Ravens! Ground squirrels! Hikers! Magpie! Prairie dogs! Dall
speckssheep! Glaciers! (No bears.)…And Denali, but that’s so yesterday.
Still bloody hot, and the permafrost is definitely melting.
Going to be hot till Mon/Tue, then cool a little for a day or so, and then back to being hot.
Enjoy the weather (and Alaska)!
re: #259 Cheechako
Going to be hot till Mon/Tue, then cool a little for a day or so, and then back to being hot.
Enjoy the weather (and Alaska)!
Damn, if it gets any hotter here, we’re coming back. Maybe to stay.
There’s a catch.
You have to bake it first. https://t.co/WFQAvIUVxD— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 29, 2019
re: #260 Anymouse 🌹
Damn, if it gets any hotter here, we’re coming back. Maybe to stay.
Think twice. It was 88 at my house today.
Busing and @JoeBiden and de facto segregation authorized by the Supreme Court, explained. (by @ElieNYC)https://t.co/e2VxtE9DTh
— Above the Law (@atlblog) June 28, 2019
re: #262 Cheechako
Think twice. It was 88 at my house today.
87 when I rocked into town after work today here in the wild north country (which is considerably south of your location). Supposed to get above 90, but the 4th of July - which has, in recent years, seen temps nearing triple digits - is supposed to be rainy and cooler.
re: #259 Cheechako
Charts on observed temperatures in Alaska cities and towns showing how dramatically the climate is changing in the last twenty years.
re: #252 Belafon
Most conservatives aren’t following liberals for their insights. On the other hand, I am following a few Never-Trumper types.
“Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.”—Micheal Corleone, “The Godfather 2”
If you want a simple explanation for what’s happening in America, watch AVATAR again.
— Marianne Williamson (@marwilliamson) October 26, 2017
People are TOO BLUE and they are plugging their hair into TOO MANY animals! https://t.co/OjS74flj3T
— Paul F. Tompkins (@PFTompkins) June 28, 2019
China hawks fear Trump is ready to deal on Huawei and for good reason. Because Trump said he was ready to deal on Huawei. https://t.co/nJmOL5Oouk
— Damian Paletta (@damianpaletta) June 27, 2019
I wish I lived in a country where Donald Trump raping a woman was treated with half the outrage and gravity of Megan Rapinoe saying: “I’m not going to the fucking White House.”
— Andrea Junker (@Strandjunker) June 28, 2019
https://www.wonkette.com/david-brooks-wants-to-know-why-dems-cant-just-nominate-a-nice-republican (Goes to Wonkette)
If there is anything David Brooks likes, it is someone telling him how pretty he is.
In his column today at the New York Times, Brooks begs Democrats to do the “sensible” thing and not “lose” him by going too far left, as if we (or anyone else, for that matter) wanted him to begin with. He’s been doing this for a while. He appears to be under the impression that his vote is the most important of all possible votes and that any candidate who does not pander to him, David Brooks, a man who lives in New York City and whose vote probably isn’t going to count much regardless of who he votes for, is bound to lose. His own party is messed up as hell and instead of trying to help clean it up, or godforbid tell them what to do, he’d much prefer that the Democrats just become the Party of Whatever David Brooks Wants so that he might graciously consider thinking about deigning to vote for one. A nice, completely ineffective Democrat who would not actually try to, you know, actually do anything.
(more)
re: #270 DodgerFan1988
Didn’t Trump say he thought the White House is a dump?
❄️🏂 Squaw Valley is still open for skiing and snowboarding! They’ll officially end their season on Sunday, July 7. pic.twitter.com/rOkpzpBYrd
— KTVU (@KTVU) June 28, 2019
re: #258 Decatur Deb
About time.
Texas bishop escorts migrants across the border in protest of U.S. policy
nydailynews.com
Mine finally issued a wimpy pastoral letter today. About what I expected since he’s retiring in six months but it still annoys the fuck out of me. This is going to be an issue for the election of his replacement - I will make it so.
The racist’s view of admiring the first black president (less white), said out loud. https://t.co/PRoWNuFu9c
— Tommy Xtophernobyl (@tommyxtopher) June 29, 2019
Terrible news here in the mountains. A longtime yet young first responder went missing on Tuesday. They found his body this afternoon, suicide.
Media Release- 06.28.19-Tayler Esslinger Found Deceased - https://t.co/kSQpZ5qNTK
— Eagle County Sheriff (@EagleCountySO) June 28, 2019
I ache at this news. I’ve been suicidal, and in less than three months time last year two people I’ve known for a long time killed themselves.
re: #275 teleskiguy
{{{teleskiguy}}}
re: #278 wrenchwench
Hey, have a possum.
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Bill Kristol is not suddenly “woke.” Like every other conservative, he’s just upset that Trump didn’t use their “civility” dogwhistles.
Circular Firing Squad (article by Johnathon V. Last, senior editor of The Bulwark writing in The Bulwark, formerly an editor and writer for The Weekly Standard)
That was … something?
I wanted to talk about the winners and losers at the Wednesday night debate, but let’s be honest—if you watched it you already know who lost: America.
Let’s go down the roll of shame.
(he then goes into what is wrong with every candidate, and like so many Republicans, you know, the Democratic Party would be so much better if we adopted Republican policies. The article also takes incredibly shallow digs at some of the candidates.)
re: #275 teleskiguy
Terrible news here in the mountains. A longtime yet young first responder went missing on Tuesday. They found his body this afternoon, suicide.
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I ache at this news. I’ve been suicidal, and in less than three months time last year two people I’ve known for a long time killed themselves.
When those that step up to help others are lost, it’s a tragedy multiplied. We need them so badly. Very sorry man.
EDIT I want you to understand that means you too. You make a differerence. A positive change.
1991. Liz Taylor marries Larry Fortensky at Neverland Ranch. Jacko and hairstylist to the stars José Eber serve as best men.
The officiant: Marianne Williamson.
She’s been with us a lot longer than you think. pic.twitter.com/tcEX8xbNpf— R.J. Lehmann (@raylehmann) June 28, 2019
re: #274 Dread Pirate
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re: #280 Anymouse 🌹
Bill Kristol is not suddenly “woke.” Like every other conservative, he’s just upset that Trump didn’t use their “civility” dogwhistles.
Circular Firing Squad (article by Johnathon V. Last, senior editor of The Bulwark writing in The Bulwark, formerly an editor and writer for The Weekly Standard)
(he then goes into what is wrong with every candidate, and like so many Republicans, you know, the Democratic Party would be so much better if we adopted Republican policies. The article also takes incredibly shallow digs at some of the candidates.)
I think Kristol has genuine issues with Trump but his party and himself have much bigger problems than the Dems. So I really could careless what Alan Keyes’ former campaign manager and an advocate for Palin as VP thinks is sound.
Actually I’m being unfair to Obama. He’s up there with the best since WWII.
re: #275 teleskiguy
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I ache at this news. I’ve been suicidal, and in less than three months time last year two people I’ve known for a long time killed themselves.
The off season of the major industry of the area, combined with fire season In the land of the lovers of BEING outdoors (as opposed to those who like to look at it sometimes) is a bad combo.
We’re getting a tiny bit of rain right now. We may be up to the predicted .06 inch already. I don’t think it’s just me who feels a sense of relief in the air.
re: #286 wrenchwench
We’re getting a tiny bit of rain right now. We may be up to the predicted .06 inch already. I don’t think it’s just me who feels a sense of relief in the air.
This week is seriously the first dry spell I can remember in weeks. It was a very wet spring. Rivers and creeks are still crazy high and swift.
Hey, I’m skiing on 4 July *using chairlifts,* first time since 1996.
“I could not support President Trump.”
It is to laugh.
You voted in favor of his policies more than 80% of the time.
I’d hate to see what it would look like if you DID support Trump. https://t.co/fNKvEi7kQ1— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 29, 2019
This is not a real ‘CL’ because I already know there’s a new thread, but this is for CL, and her cat, and all you other cats who keep people.
Dreaming of #Caturday. pic.twitter.com/SUiCqseaOV
— Sanho Tree (@SanhoTree) June 29, 2019
re: #288 Charles Johnson
[Jeff Flake]
I saw a tweet with a photo of Flake in it, and my first thought was, ‘Who is that doing the Jeff Flake act?’ Then I saw his name, and thought, ‘Oh, it’s Jeff Flake doing his Jeff Flake act.’
Racism continues unabated with TSA:
Riz Ahmed’s Star Wars Celebration Chicago Appearance Was Canceled Because Homeland Security Wouldn’t Let Him Board His Flight (Goes to Gizmondo)
On the first day of Star Wars Celebration Chicago this past April, it was suddenly announced that Riz Ahmed—who played Imperial courier-turned Rebel hero Bodhi Rook in Rogue One—had to cancel his appearance at the convention. Now, the actor’s revealed why, and it’s another reflection of being a minority attempting to travel in the U.S.
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
Joe Bacon ✅
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
